{"id":3898,"date":"2012-07-18T07:43:12","date_gmt":"2012-07-18T07:43:12","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/gregorydamy.niceavocats.fr\/?p=3898"},"modified":"2023-08-31T06:17:35","modified_gmt":"2023-08-31T06:17:35","slug":"illicit-surveillance-of-employees-what-consequences","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/gregorydamy.niceavocats.fr\/en\/illicit-surveillance-of-employees-what-consequences\/","title":{"rendered":"Illicit surveillance of employees: what consequences?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; admin_label=&#8221;section&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.19.5&#8243; custom_margin=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;||0px||false|false&#8221; locked=&#8221;off&#8221; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221;][et_pb_row column_structure=&#8221;1_3,1_3,1_3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;4.19.5&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; background_enable_mask_style=&#8221;on&#8221; background_mask_style=&#8221;wave&#8221; background_mask_color=&#8221;rgba(0,0,0,0.08)&#8221; 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_builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; _module_preset=&#8221;default&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Text&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;4.21.0&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Amiri||||||||&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Amiri||||||||&#8221; header_3_font=&#8221;Amiri||||||||&#8221; background_size=&#8221;initial&#8221; background_position=&#8221;top_left&#8221; background_repeat=&#8221;repeat&#8221; hover_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243; global_colors_info=&#8221;{}&#8221; sticky_enabled=&#8221;0&#8243;]<\/p>\n<div class=\"entry-content\">\n<h2><span>Illicit method of proof: clandestine control system<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span class=\"\"><span>The case involves the Post Office suspecting a\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"\"><span>postwoman\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span class=\"\"><span>\u00a0of opening certain envelopes and decided to test this suspicion by having her handle letter bombs containing blue ink, which would be released if the envelopes were opened.\u00a0<\/span><\/span><span>However, while employers have the right to control and monitor their employees during working hours, they cannot resort to clandestine monitoring systems.\u00a0Such methods are considered unfair and therefore illegal as a means of proof.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>This section refers to abusive surveillance of employees and resulting unfair dismissals.\u00a0It highlights the use of illegal methods by employers to control and monitor their staff, such as the case of La Poste using letter bombs without the knowledge of employees.\u00a0Such clandestine control systems are considered unfair and illicit methods of proof.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>In this context, the right of the employer to control and monitor employees during working hours is recognized, but it is emphasized that clandestine methods are not permitted.\u00a0For the proof to be legally valid, a control and monitoring system must be properly communicated to employees in advance.\u00a0Simple surveillance by a supervisor in the workplace, even without prior notification, is generally not considered an illegal method of proof, according to consistent case law.<\/span><\/p>\n<h2><span>Illegitimacy of the evidence and unjust dismissal<\/span><\/h2>\n<p><span>In this particular case, the use of letter bombs without the employees&#8217; knowledge had all the characteristics of an\u00a0illicit method of\u00a0<\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lexbase.fr\/article-juridique\/6561638-jurisprudencepreuvedelemployeurcontrelesalariedelaloyauteavanttout\"><span>proof.\u00a0<\/span><\/a><span>consequently, the evidence collected under this system could not be used by the employer.\u00a0Consequently, the dismissal for serious\u00a0<\/span><span>misconduct\u00a0<\/span><span>\u00a0lacked real and serious cause.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>It is essential to note that for a control and surveillance system to be considered a legal means of proof, employees must be informed in advance of its existence.\u00a0The simple fact of observing and monitoring employees in the workplace, even without prior notification, does not constitute an illegal mode of proof according to established case law.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span>This decision highlights the importance of fair and legal practices in employee surveillance.\u00a0Employers must follow appropriate procedures and inform employees of any control or monitoring systems in place.\u00a0The use of clandestine methods, such as the use of letter bombs, is considered unfair and an infringement of employee rights.\u00a0<span class=\"VIpgJd-yAWNEb-VIpgJd-fmcmS-sn54Q\">By establishing the illegitimacy of evidence collected by such means, the court guarantees the protection of employees&#8217; 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